N,N-Dimethyltryptamine and Abductions!

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N,N-Dimethyltryptamine & Abductions! there is a connection folks..

Science would have us believe that the phenomenon of ‘sleep paralysis’ is the explaination behind all alien abduction claims, that essentially it is ‘all in mind’ of the abductee. Whilst the UFO community would reject this, citing the consistency of reports as well as the physical evidence; scars and implants that have been surgically removed. Is there any possible way of reconciling these (apparently) opposing views?

( as an aside, i have found a puncture on my arm that i have no explaination for... have i been abducted?? not likely.. (i hope) more likely i have bashed into something without noticing.. then when the scab got itchy in the night i scratched the scab off, and woke finding blood.. and a stange fresh looking wound in the morning..

have i had an implant? well ( ok laugh if ya want...) i used my emf and cell sensors, a compass, a magnet and a stud detector to see if there was anyhing in there.. (short of going to the vet and asking to use their pet implant thingy.. hmmm ?? theres a thought) i found nothing..
no im not gonna go for an x-ray.. would have been interesting to have got a reaction... but lol ( phew! cos i dont wanna be thinking that crap is going on im my life) ... back to the point..

Sleep paralysis has been described as being ‘a mundane explanation’ of the alien abduction phenomenon. But just what is sleep paralysis anyway? There are two varieties accepted scientifically. The first, most common sort occurs during REM sleep where the body is naturally paralysed (to prevent the individual from acting out their dreams); if the individual wakes up during this state they become aware that they cannot move. This usually only lasts for very short length of time, although it can be terrifying if the individual doesn’t understand what is happening. The second occurs during non-REM sleep (typically as the individual is waking up), and is accompanied by hallucinations, usually of figures in the room. This time the paralysis is said to be caused by a failure to reactivate the muscles immediately. The hallucinations are said to be related to hypnopompic images, i.e. dream images spilling over into the waking mind. This process is not fully understood however, and this has lead some individuals to suggest that these ‘hallucinations’ my not be coming from within the individual at all, and may in some sense be ‘real’

Where therefore might these ‘hallucinations’ come from? Accounts of the second category of sleep paralysis go back hundreds of years, and across numerous cultures. The key elements are always the same. The individual appears to wake up and finds themselves unable to move. This is accompanied by feelings of absolute and irrepressible terror. There is often a being or beings in the room, usually humanoid in appearance. It is the presence of these beings, as well as the complete lack of control, that seems to trigger such animalistic fear within the individual. Could such entities (on certain occasions at least) arise from somewhere other than the individuals own psyche? Could the human mind be being used as some kind of receiver which can be tuned into picking up more ‘subtle’ levels of reality?

Sleep paralysis has also been long associated with the out of body experience (OBE). Most scientists would again tell us this phenomenon is ‘all in the mind’, but this relationship has led one OBE researcher/author to propose anther hypothesis. Robert Bruce believes that what is happening is something he calls the ‘mind split’ effect. This is to say that the individual’s consciousness is essentially in two places at once. The paralysis is due to an OBE actually being in progress, and the ‘presence’ felt or seen in the room is actually your own ‘projected double’. This of course leads to the question of why so many people may experience sleep paralysis, yet have no memory of an OBE. This can be explained, say’s Robert, by the fact that memories have to be downloaded to the physical brain. It appears that the human brain has difficulty in accepting more than one memory for a single time frame, as such the strongest memory, usually that associated with the physical is the one remembered (Robert Bruce, Astral Dynamics, Hampton Roads, 1999).

What do we mean by contact with an alien intelligence anyway? Should we only be looking to the physical realms of outer space to discover it? Or might it be something all together more ‘alien’ than we have so far conceived. If this is indeed the case then why are researchers of the alien abduction phenomenon apparently so keen to dismiss reports of anything that might be ‘all in the mind’ (i.e. sleep paralysis etc). Some of the latest ideas in theoretical physics as well as some of our oldest traditions tell us that that there is another more subtle level of reality just beyond which we can ordinarily perceive. Physicist David Bohm call this the implicate order.

One of Bohm’s most startling assertions is that the tangible reality of our everyday lives is really a kind of illusion, like a holographic image. Underlying it is a deeper order of existence, a vast and more primary level of reality that gives birth to all the objects and appearances of our physical world in much the same way that a piece of holographic film gives birth to a hologram. Bohm calls this deeper level of reality the implicate (which means ‘enfolded’) order, and he refers to our own level of existence as the explicate, or unfolded order (Michael Talbot, The Holographic Universe, Harper Collins, 1996, p, 46).

Here, our consciousness can be compared to the laser one would project through the holographic film to create the hologram. Does our consciousness ultimately create the universe we perceive around us? Quantum physics has shown us that the mere act of observing quanta directly affects their behaviour. So what does this imply for beings possibly thousands of years ahead of ourselves in understanding this science, or even those for whom the implicate order might be ‘home’?

There are many who have claimed to have travelled into these realms and returned with tales of contact with what have varyingly been called entities, intelligence, the logos and the ‘other’. Out of body travellers have reported making contact with an array of entities. From what Robert Bruce calls ‘astral wildlife’ to beings who appear to act as teachers and guides.

Read next post regarding a possible pathway to the abductions

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Psychedelics have been perceived by some to be a gateway to this ‘other realm’ and have been deeply associated with the issue of ‘contact’. The late Terrence McKenna for example throws open the idea that psilocybin mushrooms may themselves be extraterrestrial.

Yup.. read that again... the MUSHROOMS themself are alien Shocked

Psilocybin has a unique chemical signature that says, ‘I am artificial; I come from outside’. It is the only 4-substitued indole in all of organic nature. It is the only 4-subsituted indole known to exist on earth. So, yes: the fact that the psilocybin compound is chemically unique, the fact that induces a logos-like experience, causes me (Terrence McKenna) at least to entertain the possibility that this is an extraterrestrial contact and that the notion of extraterrestrials, as we have previously conceived them, as someone from far away who would come in ships and get in touch with us, is an obsolete notion. (Terrence McKenna, The Archaic Revival, p 80).

Another powerful psychedelic to repeatedly induce the ‘contact’ experience is DMT, or N,N-dimethyltryptamine. Between 1990 and 1995 this chemical was the focus of a DEA-approved clinical research effort conducted by Dr Rick Strassman. In his book; DMT The Spirit Molecule, Strassman relates numerous instances were volunteers encountered ‘entities’.

Suddenly, beings appeared. They were cloaked, like silhouettes. They were glad to see me. They indicated that they had had contact with me as an individual before. They seemed pleased that we had discovered this technology. I felt like a spiritual seeker who had gotten too far off course and, instead of encountering the spirit world, overshot my destination and ended up on another planet. They wanted to learn more about our physical bodies. They told me humans exist on many levels. I needed to reconnect with my physical body in time for the blood pressure check and blood sampling. It was as if they, rather than Laura, were collecting the information, and they appreciated my doing it for them. Somehow we had something in common. They told me to "embrace peace". (Dr Rick Strassman, DMT The Spirit Molecule, p, 214)

They were cloaked, like silhouettes our Shadow people???

DMT is produced naturally in the human brain. However instead of assuming that it’s presence (if produced in abnormal amounts) might explain away the alien abduction experience as being nothing more than ‘all in the mind’, he (Dr Rick Strassman) entertained the idea that DMT might be what he termed The Spirit Molecule’.

Therefore let’s consider the proposal that when our volunteers journeyed to the further bounds of DMT’s reach, when they felt as if they were somewhere else, they were indeed perceiving different levels of reality. The alternative levels are as real as this one. It’s just that we cannot perceive them most of the time.

In making this suggestion, I (Dr Rick Strassman) am not discarding the brainchemistry and psychological models. Rather, I wish to add to the options we entertain. Returning to the TV analogy, these cases suggest that, rather than merely adjusting the brightness, contrast and colour of the previous program, we have changed the channel. No longer is the show we are we watching every day reality, Channel Normal. DMT provides regular, repeated and reliable access to "other" channels. (Dr Rick Strassman, DMT The Spirit Molecule, p, 315)

Abduction researcher, Dr John Mack has said of Strassman; "His important research contributes to a growing awareness that we inhabit a multidimensional universe that is far more complex and interesting than the one our scientific theories have shown us. It is of the utmost importance that we face the implications of this discovery, for it has so much to tell us about who we are and why we are here."

So we return to asking what is sleep paralysis? Could it be caused by abnormal DMT levels (which incidentally peak during the early hours of the morning)? And if this proved it were all in the mind, just what would that mean anyway? Could physical extraterrestrials with a greater understanding of this science readily utilize and manipulate it. Moving from the implicit to the explicit at will perhaps, might this explain their apparent ability to walk through solid matter (much as the out of body traveller does) and yet also leave behind physical evidence?

In conclusion we should assume very little about the abduction phenomenon. Physical contact with extraterrestrials may well be occurring, but so too may Photo credit Stuart Conway (c) another type of contact with an equally alien intelligence. We should perhaps be more careful when we say that something is ‘all in the mind’, it may well be, yet it may ultimately prove to be just as ‘real’ and valuable as that which occurs on the outside.

AND NO.. i am not suggesting we start a course of Psychedelic Drugs.... but offer the simple thought...

Expand.. think can DMT not only allow Extraterrestrial interraction, as it is produced normally in the brain.. is it the stuff that makes Mediums and others able to see spirit?
After all, it has been termerd the SPIRT drug.. not the UFO drug..

so maybe if we can find a way to NATURALLY increase our DMT levels.. .............see where im going?

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How can we naturally increase DMT levells in the brain?

I have no idea..

Thoughts please people.....

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http://www.potseeds.co.uk/mushrooms/

NO dont go buying them.. its illegal in the UK..

Why is it illegal..
an interesting point.. far more telling than you would imagine..

Typical doses may cause a number of small effects, such as loss of appetite.Higher doses (typically 2½ dry grams and above) cause numerous effects such as feelings of coldness, numbness of the mouth and adjacent features, nausea, weakness in the limbs (making locomotion difficult), excessive yawning which usually occurs during the come-up, swollen features and pupil dilation. Sleep

So the WORST that seems to occur is.. it makes you sleepy Sleep

and a bit sick.. ( and yawn a lot. What a Face

. so no worse than my postings in here! Sleep

oi wakeup.. im just checking you paying attention!! affraid

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Possible risks
Psilocybin mushrooms are non-toxic and non-addictive although they do create short term increases in tolerance of users. Oral ingestion can produce nausea, dizziness, and sometimes vomiting. The greatest danger from recreational use is a "bad trip" which can cause severe emotional and psychological distress. Also, extremely poisonous wild picked mushrooms can be easily mistaken for psilocybin mushrooms. Mushrooms should be identified by a professional mycologist if ingestion is deemed appropriate.

it is rated by the centre for disease control (USA) as less harmful than ASPIRIN!!!!!!!..

SO WHY IS IT ILLEGAL IN THE UK???

It is a class A drug in the uk and has been since 2005...which in itself is a little wierd..
it grows freely in deciduous woodland all over the uk in august thru till November.. so TECHNICALLY, if you have a broadleafed tree in your garden, and the spores are airborn... you could be growing them without your knowledge, and face up to LIFE in prison!!!!!..

tho no one has been so unlucky as to fall into that loop hole yet..

Why class A? class A drugs are deemed so if they have no good medical reason for their use, are dangerous,

Psilocybin and psilocin are listed as Schedule I drugs under the United Nations 1971 Convention on Psychotropic Substances.[22] Schedule I drugs are drugs with a high potential for abuse that have no recognized medical uses...
so they fall into the category of Cocaine, Heroin, etc.. them nasty drugs... lead you straight to hell..

but it is obvious they in fact are NOT like those drugs.. they are hardly if ever abused, no one gets addicted, you do not need to turn to crime to get them.. (except owning them is a crime so maybe thats a mute point)...

SO AGAIN WHY??

After the Spanish conquest, Catholic missionaries campaigned against the "pagan idolatry," and as a result, the use of hallucinogenic plants and mushrooms, like other pre-Christian traditions, was forcibly suppressed.

The Christian Church knew the history and connection between the 'shrooms' and strong religious belief.. so to keep these other religions ( including witchcraft) down they simply raised the idea that they were devil made, and this continues..

Hallucinogenic species of Psilocybe have a history of use among the native peoples of Mesoamerica for religious communion, divination, and healing, from pre-Columbian times up to the present day. Mushroom-shaped statuettes found at archaeological sites seem to indicate that ritual use of hallucinogenic mushrooms is quite ancient. Mushroom stones and motifs have been found in Mayan temple ruins in Guatemala, though there is considerable controversy as to whether these objects indicate the use of hallucinogenic mushrooms or whether they had some other significance with the mushroom shape being simply a coincidence. More concretely, a statuette dating from ca. 200 CE and depicting a mushroom strongly resembling Psilocybe mexicana was found in a west Mexican shaft and chamber tomb in the state of Colima . Hallucinogenic Psilocybe were known to the Aztecs as teonanácatl (literally "god's mushroom" or, more properly, "flesh of the gods" - agglutinative form of teó (god) and nanácatl (mushroom) in Náhuatl) and were reportedly served at the coronation of the Aztec ruler Moctezuma II in 1502.

Aztecs and Mazatecs referred to psilocybin mushrooms as genius mushrooms, divinatory mushrooms, and wondrous mushrooms, when translated into English. Bernardino de Sahagún reported ritualistic use of teonanácatl by the Aztecs, when he traveled to Central America after the expedition of Herando Cortés.

The Spanish believed the mushroom allowed the Aztecs and others to communicate with "devils". In converting people to Catholicism, the Spanish pushed for a switch from teonanácatl to the Catholic sacrament of the Eucharist.

people talkingto god after having a few 'shrooms' is potentially dangerous for the christian church... it could lead folks away.. and even as late as 2006 headline news SF chronicle reports headline :-

God Is In The Magic Mushrooms
This just in: Psychedelic drugs could be very good for your mind, heart, soul. Can you believe?

gotta keep that stuff repressed.. dont want people ACTUALLY finding god do we?

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Dimethyltryptamine (DMT), also known as N,N-dimethyltryptamine, is a psychedelictryptamine. It is not to be confused with 5-MeO-DMT and is similar in chemical structure to the neurotransmitter serotonin.

Good news then.
Chocolate increases seratonin levels in the human brain..

SOOO
volounteers please for someone to eat a large amount of DARK chocolate before an invo...

form an orderly queue....

ME first...
then Vince..
then Carls Dad,
then Rose's husband...

etc.